(09-28-2023, 08:34 AM)Raiden wrote

(09-28-2023, 07:08 AM)redogg wrote hi, i checked your crash and it comes from *C:\Windows\System32\apphelp.dll
did you update your windows to newest version?
does your game crash while not injecting and still having the files in game folder?

Yes my windows is up to date. Im running win 11 and it automatically gets the updates it needs so i dont think the windows being out of date is the problem here.
I tried the game without the hack and it works just fine. I could join an online game and it didn't crash whatsoever.
And yes with the files in the game folder and it didn't crash. So obviously it's something related to the hack. Maybe an option from there is causing this, i don't know. Or maybe it's something windows related. Hard to tell really. Maybe other win 11 users are experiencing something similar? Or maybe everyone else is running windows 10. Not sure. All i know is that it's ridiculous.

(09-28-2023, 10:03 AM)redogg wrote

(09-28-2023, 08:34 AM)Raiden wrote Yes my windows is up to date. Im running win 11 and it automatically gets the updates it needs so i dont think the windows being out of date is the problem here.
I tried the game without the hack and it works just fine. I could join an online game and it didn't crash whatsoever.
And yes with the files in the game folder and it didn't crash. So obviously it's something related to the hack. Maybe an option from there is causing this, i don't know. Or maybe it's something windows related. Hard to tell really. Maybe other win 11 users are experiencing something similar? Or maybe everyone else is running windows 10. Not sure. All i know is that it's ridiculous.

not quite sure bro
edit: or your windows isn't updated.. or win11 is buggy, I saw this article https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/resolved-issues-windows-11-21h2#3010msgdesc
and it looks like the same problem
microsoft says to do something with graphics card drivers if you have Intel gpu, read the link

(09-28-2023, 10:32 AM)Raiden wrote

(09-28-2023, 10:03 AM)redogg wrote not quite sure bro
edit: or your windows isn't updated.. or win11 is buggy, I saw this article https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/resolved-issues-windows-11-21h2#3010msgdesc
and it looks like the same problem
microsoft says to do something with graphics card drivers if you have Intel gpu, read the link

Thanks! Got ryzen integrated gpu with nvidia as main gpu so i dont think thats an issue. Although i cant seem to be able to install radeon drivers because they seem to be conflicting with nvidia so i didn't bother to use the integrated gpu anyway. It's really strange. Im not sure thats where the problem would originate from. I just did an update check today and i'm up to date so i'll try and see what comes of it. Hopefully this will go away eventually with new updates, provided they are the issue. If only these damn crashes would provide helpful info then it would be easier to pinpoint the exact cause. Thanks for your help. Appreciate it!

I tried joining an online game first then injecting the hack but the game crashed when i tried to get back into it. Really strange.

(09-28-2023, 01:21 PM)redogg wrote

(09-28-2023, 10:32 AM)Raiden wrote Thanks! Got ryzen integrated gpu with nvidia as main gpu so i dont think thats an issue. Although i cant seem to be able to install radeon drivers because they seem to be conflicting with nvidia so i didn't bother to use the integrated gpu anyway. It's really strange. Im not sure thats where the problem would originate from. I just did an update check today and i'm up to date so i'll try and see what comes of it. Hopefully this will go away eventually with new updates, provided they are the issue. If only these damn crashes would provide helpful info then it would be easier to pinpoint the exact cause. Thanks for your help. Appreciate it!

I tried joining an online game first then injecting the hack but the game crashed when i tried to get back into it. Really strange.

wait a minute it's a laptop? how does it have two cards?
edit: I see that some gaming laptops have two, and I read that they switch from one graphics card to another while doing various tasks to save battery.
try to see if you have a switch in laptop somewhere called mux to turn it off
https://jarrods.tech/what-is-a-mux-switch-for-gaming-laptops/

(09-28-2023, 04:49 AM)redogg wrote

(09-27-2023, 09:47 PM)fearless4874 wrote I'm not sure what the cause, but I get crashed as spitter when I try to spawn or spit sometimes. It happens many times so I believe it's not random, just not always.

send crash file

(09-28-2023, 02:19 PM)Raiden wrote

(09-28-2023, 01:21 PM)redogg wrote wait a minute it's a laptop? how does it have two cards?
edit: I see that some gaming laptops have two, and I read that they switch from one graphics card to another while doing various tasks to save battery.
try to see if you have a switch in laptop somewhere called mux to turn it off
https://jarrods.tech/what-is-a-mux-switch-for-gaming-laptops/

Yeah it's a laptop with ryzen 5800h integrated gpu and rtx 3070 dedicated gpu. Mux is turned off. I manually switch the modes whenever i need them switched. So no, i don't think that's the issue either. I'm not sure what else to try.

Edit: I've injected the hack and went on to join a lobby. For some unexplained reason this time it worked. Then i disconnected from that game and tried to join another. This time however the game crashed mid joining and generated a failed dump file. This is really ridiculous.

There has to be something i can try to get it working. I mean like, 8-9 months ago i had another laptop from which i played the game using the hack and win 11 and it worked no problem. So i'm not sure what the hell is causing this.

(09-28-2023, 02:44 PM)fearless4874 wrote

(09-28-2023, 04:49 AM)redogg wrote send crash file

It's a 600 MB dump file with this name "(failed)left4dead2_crash_20230928044606_1.mdmp". Is it examinable?

(09-30-2023, 05:34 AM)redogg wrote

(09-28-2023, 02:19 PM)Raiden wrote Yeah it's a laptop with ryzen 5800h integrated gpu and rtx 3070 dedicated gpu. Mux is turned off. I manually switch the modes whenever i need them switched. So no, i don't think that's the issue either. I'm not sure what else to try.

Edit: I've injected the hack and went on to join a lobby. For some unexplained reason this time it worked. Then i disconnected from that game and tried to join another. This time however the game crashed mid joining and generated a failed dump file. This is really ridiculous.

There has to be something i can try to get it working. I mean like, 8-9 months ago i had another laptop from which i played the game using the hack and win 11 and it worked no problem. So i'm not sure what the hell is causing this.

sorry bro but I don't really know what's going on

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(09-28-2023, 02:44 PM)fearless4874 wrote It's a 600 MB dump file with this name "(failed)left4dead2_crash_20230928044606_1.mdmp". Is it examinable?

not sure, but it's better to not be failed if course
I think if it's not 0mb it should be readable just the crash file stopped recording because the game crashed too fast for it to finish

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I will post an update sometime today soon

(09-30-2023, 05:34 AM)redogg wrote

(09-28-2023, 02:19 PM)Raiden wrote Yeah it's a laptop with ryzen 5800h integrated gpu and rtx 3070 dedicated gpu. Mux is turned off. I manually switch the modes whenever i need them switched. So no, i don't think that's the issue either. I'm not sure what else to try.

Edit: I've injected the hack and went on to join a lobby. For some unexplained reason this time it worked. Then i disconnected from that game and tried to join another. This time however the game crashed mid joining and generated a failed dump file. This is really ridiculous.

There has to be something i can try to get it working. I mean like, 8-9 months ago i had another laptop from which i played the game using the hack and win 11 and it worked no problem. So i'm not sure what the hell is causing this.

sorry bro but I don't really know what's going on

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(09-28-2023, 02:44 PM)fearless4874 wrote It's a 600 MB dump file with this name "(failed)left4dead2_crash_20230928044606_1.mdmp". Is it examinable?

not sure, but it's better to not be failed if course
I think if it's not 0mb it should be readable just the crash file stopped recording because the game crashed too fast for it to finish

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I will post an update sometime today soon

(09-30-2023, 08:19 AM)Raiden wrote

(09-30-2023, 05:34 AM)redogg wrote sorry bro but I don't really know what's going on

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not sure, but it's better to not be failed if course
I think if it's not 0mb it should be readable just the crash file stopped recording because the game crashed too fast for it to finish

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I will post an update sometime today soon

Dammit :( I swear this is not making any sense. Godamn crash files are mostly failures and i really cannot comprehend why the hell does it keep crashing like that. I've reinstalled the game and everything and still the same. Did no one before have issue with it on windows 11? Could it really be the windows at fault for this? Something's definitely the matter. but i can't put my finger on what it is.

(09-30-2023, 12:29 PM)redogg wrote

(09-30-2023, 08:19 AM)Raiden wrote Dammit :( I swear this is not making any sense. Godamn crash files are mostly failures and i really cannot comprehend why the hell does it keep crashing like that. I've reinstalled the game and everything and still the same. Did no one before have issue with it on windows 11? Could it really be the windows at fault for this? Something's definitely the matter. but i can't put my finger on what it is.

what's your screen res?

(09-30-2023, 01:55 PM)Raiden wrote

(09-30-2023, 12:29 PM)redogg wrote what's your screen res?

2560 x 1600
Sometimes it feels like there's something with my addons. I mean without addons it doesn't crash, but whenever i install an addon, when i start the game i hear a crackling sound which pretty much cues me in into the fact that the game is more than likely to crash. But i cant seem to be able to isolate the culprit or the culprits.
I swear it's downright enraging.

I tried switching between resolutions but i pretty much met up with the same situations. However, i noticed across different resolutions that if i alt tab out then back into the game, the game crashes. Every, single, time. Why? No idea. I already cut down on the amount of addons i'm using. So far it seems be working, although, i didn't get to test too much. It's really damn stupid. There's something obviously conflicting with the multi hack. And i'm not sure what.

(09-30-2023, 07:26 AM)fearless4874 wrote

(09-30-2023, 05:34 AM)redogg wrote sorry bro but I don't really know what's going on

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not sure, but it's better to not be failed if course
I think if it's not 0mb it should be readable just the crash file stopped recording because the game crashed too fast for it to finish

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I will post an update sometime today soon

I forgot to compress it first
https://mega.nz/file/rGRmFbaL#psVpTu9k4glLPxWswj2wf8KTCf-s2LN_9f7vmCM27RA

(09-30-2023, 02:28 PM)redogg wrote

(09-30-2023, 01:55 PM)Raiden wrote 2560 x 1600
Sometimes it feels like there's something with my addons. I mean without addons it doesn't crash, but whenever i install an addon, when i start the game i hear a crackling sound which pretty much cues me in into the fact that the game is more than likely to crash. But i cant seem to be able to isolate the culprit or the culprits.
I swear it's downright enraging.

I tried switching between resolutions but i pretty much met up with the same situations. However, i noticed across different resolutions that if i alt tab out then back into the game, the game crashes. Every, single, time. Why? No idea. I already cut down on the amount of addons i'm using. So far it seems be working, although, i didn't get to test too much. It's really damn stupid. There's something obviously conflicting with the multi hack. And i'm not sure what.

so i didnt understand, without addons it doesnt crash?

(09-30-2023, 03:34 PM)Raiden wrote

(09-30-2023, 02:28 PM)redogg wrote so i didnt understand, without addons it doesnt crash?

It appears so. I've tried finding the culprit but apparently it's soo godamn sneaky. So i cut them all down to just a few. Just to be safe. Can't say i'm happy about it.
It's so damn stupid. Ive a sneaky suspicions the addons might not be the problem after all. Maybe this version of the multi hack has something wrong with it. Hard to say.

(09-30-2023, 06:08 PM)redogg wrote

(09-30-2023, 03:34 PM)Raiden wrote It appears so. I've tried finding the culprit but apparently it's soo godamn sneaky. So i cut them all down to just a few. Just to be safe. Can't say i'm happy about it.
It's so damn stupid. Ive a sneaky suspicions the addons might not be the problem after all. Maybe this version of the multi hack has something wrong with it. Hard to say.

oh.. its pretty easy to do it, just disable half of your addons, play without them, see if crashes, if it does then remove another half of the half you already removed of your addons until it stops crashing. that way you can illuminate a bunch of addons at once that clearly dont make the issue

when it stops crashing, just remove/add partly like 5-10 addons at a time until you find the addon
it should be pretty easy and quick since you say the crash happens right away, theres no need to play or anything..

(09-30-2023, 07:18 PM)Raiden wrote

(09-30-2023, 06:08 PM)redogg wrote oh.. its pretty easy to do it, just disable half of your addons, play without them, see if crashes, if it does then remove another half of the half you already removed of your addons until it stops crashing. that way you can illuminate a bunch of addons at once that clearly dont make the issue

when it stops crashing, just remove/add partly like 5-10 addons at a time until you find the addon
it should be pretty easy and quick since you say the crash happens right away, theres no need to play or anything..

Well i did mention that sometimes it crashes instantly while other times it crashes when i alt tab out then back into the game and other times it crashes when joining a second lobby. God, what a pain in the ass. Especially if multiple addons are causing this. Ffs. But yeah, it seems i got no other choice but to do this. Godamn pain in the ass.

(10-01-2023, 05:15 AM)deidara213 wrote does smac or lilac detect backtrack?

(09-30-2023, 07:45 PM)redogg wrote

(09-30-2023, 07:18 PM)Raiden wrote Well i did mention that sometimes it crashes instantly while other times it crashes when i alt tab out then back into the game and other times it crashes when joining a second lobby. God, what a pain in the ass. Especially if multiple addons are causing this. Ffs. But yeah, it seems i got no other choice but to do this. Godamn pain in the ass.

ohh about multiple addons, if its multiple addons you screwed, its really pain in the ass to find multiple
but hope its not and its only one

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yet another thing, in newest version i tested now backtrack and seems like it likes to crash randomly. i think i fixed it, i maybe will post hotfix soon

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and.. i found a way to make backtrack alot more accurate, i will try to add it next version

(10-01-2023, 09:53 AM)Raiden wrote

(09-30-2023, 07:45 PM)redogg wrote ohh about multiple addons, if its multiple addons you screwed, its really pain in the ass to find multiple
but hope its not and its only one

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yet another thing, in newest version i tested now backtrack and seems like it likes to crash randomly. i think i fixed it, i maybe will post hotfix soon

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and.. i found a way to make backtrack alot more accurate, i will try to add it next version

Never used backtrack whatsoever.

(10-01-2023, 10:45 AM)redogg wrote

(10-01-2023, 09:53 AM)Raiden wrote Never used backtrack whatsoever.

ehh, yes it's pretty lame now anyways. it misses like 50% of the bullets
so what about the workshop? did you find something?

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and if you need help with workshop, you could make a workshop collection of your mods and end me the link so I would subscribe to them my self

(10-01-2023, 01:04 PM)Raiden wrote

(10-01-2023, 10:45 AM)redogg wrote ehh, yes it's pretty lame now anyways. it misses like 50% of the bullets
so what about the workshop? did you find something?

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and if you need help with workshop, you could make a workshop collection of your mods and end me the link so I would subscribe to them my self

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3043465848
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate it! I didn't get to try your latest upload. Maybe the issue is gone? I'll try that and let you know. Otherwise it's back to testing addons one by one. I just wish these crashes wouldn't be so all over the place. Sometimes it crashes when trying to join, other times a while after joining a game and playing for a little and other times when alt tabbing out then back into the game. I also ported some of the config files and configurations i was using on the old laptop for addons to this new laptop. Maybe there's mismatch that may cause the game to crash? Unlikely, but who knows. Feels like the issue has multiple roots which makes it that much harder to pin down.

(10-01-2023, 10:57 PM)fearless4874 wrote @redogg
Is normal no spread (with normal aimbot) detectable by Smac? (in smac only servers, no Lilac)

(10-02-2023, 06:33 AM)redogg wrote

(10-01-2023, 10:57 PM)fearless4874 wrote @redogg
Is normal no spread (with normal aimbot) detectable by Smac? (in smac only servers, no Lilac)

no but players can clearly see the you use that